thanks for the input. here is where I am now.
Ive changed the -sll ALL to -sll implicit and it seems like something just isnt talking correctly. I get a message about unable to read data from transport connection.
then when I look at the txt file that was transfered it has a bunch of unknown characters in it.
ps Ive talked to the admin of the ftps server and he wasnt much help. :-(
thanks for any input.. -Macomb